Are We Winning the War On Terror?

Honestly, I don't know because we've never defined "winning," let alone "victory."

• If it means Osama bin Laden is dead: we're not winning.
• If it means that Iraq is capable of governing and defending themselves (without undergoing the mafia period Russia did when they went all democracy): we're not winning.
• If it means that the Taliban hasn't resurfaced in Afghanistan: we're not winning.
• If it means that our soldiers are getting the proper body armor they require: we're not winning.
• If it means that our wounded soldiers are getting the best care available: we're not not winning.
• If it means that our soldiers are returning home to get the best psychological care: we're not winning.
• If it means that al-Qaida isn't attacking other nations: we're not winning.

Or the other hand:

• If it means that oil companies are showing record profits: we're winning.
• If it means that Saddam Hussein is dead: we're winning.
• If it means that our government gets to spy on us without a warrant: we're winning.
• If it means that one party gets to win elections they wouldn't have won otherwise: we're winning.
• If it means that one politician can call another unpatriotic and not be challenged or asked to explain their accusation: we're winning.
• If it means that one party can exploit the memory of 9/11 for political gain: we're winning.
• If it means that al-Qaida has not attacked us in the same manner they attacked us on 9/11: we're winning.

I wonder what definitions George W. Bush, John McCain and Sarah Palin are using?

Oh, BTW: some more news to help people define "winning."

AZIZABAD, Afghanistan — To the villagers here, there is no doubt what happened in an American airstrike on Aug. 22: more than 90 civilians, the majority of them women and children, were killed.

The Afghan government, human rights and intelligence officials, independent witnesses and a United Nations investigation back up their account, pointing to dozens of freshly dug graves, lists of the dead, and cellphone videos and other images showing bodies of women and children laid out in the village mosque.

Cellphone images seen by this reporter show at least 11 dead children, some apparently with blast and concussion injuries, among some 30 to 40 bodies laid out in the village mosque. Ten days after the airstrikes, villagers dug up the last victim from the rubble, a baby just a few months old. Their shock and grief is still palpable.

For two weeks, the United States military has insisted that only 5 to 7 civilians, and 30 to 35 militants, were killed in what it says was a successful operation against the Taliban: a Special Operations ground mission backed up by American air support. But on Sunday, Gen. David D. McKiernan, the senior American commander in Afghanistan, requested that a general be sent from Central Command to review the American military investigation in light of “emerging evidence.”

“The people of Afghanistan have our commitment to get to the truth,” he said in a statement.